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Can two sides in a debate - both composed of sincere, intelligent people - look at precisely the same set of evidence and reach precisely opposite verdicts? With the Church of England's first women bishops to be named soon following the final seal of approval for legislation allowing them, that is exactly the case. Supporters of women bishops say St Paul was part of an early Christian world in which some Church leaders were women. Opponents believe he forbade women to exercise power in church.

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No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians.

His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry. He was a key figure in the first Churches spreading outside the Holy Land. Can two sides in a debate - both composed of ofr, intelligent people - look at precisely the same set of evidence and reach precisely opposite verdicts?

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Why are women in a list of important early Christians? Different message for different people?

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Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking. In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women.

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Some have doubted Junia was a woman at all. Both say there is a line to be drawn between biblr is for the occasion when it was written, and what is a message for all believers and all time.

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But some commentators claim verse must have been added later, because it appears to contradict an earlier verse in the same letter which says women should have their he covered when they prophesy. This would not surprise Paul. As an authority on life in the earliest Christian communities, Paul is unsurpassed.

As late as the s the New English Bible described her as Junias, a man. Had been a persecutor of Christians before becoming a leader and teacher of Christian communities in Asia Minor, Greece and Rome Details of his life come from his letters, and the later Acts of the Apostles Acts says he was a tentmakerthat his Jewish name was Saul, and that he was a Roman citizen - his other name Paulos could be Roman Later tradition says he was martyred in the same place as St Peter Rome and on the same date 29 June - but not necessarily in the same year.

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To those not having the [Jewish] law I became like one not having the law He says the Church in Corinth seems to have been "pretty chaotic But it is unlikely that either side will be able to convince the other of its own interpretations any time soon. All the Bible quotations here are taken from the New International Version. No-one doubts that Paul wrote I Corinthians.

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But it is unlikely that either side will be able to convince the other of its own interpretations any time soon. He says the Church in Corinth seems to have been "pretty chaotic Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in wonen original Greekis named before her husband Aquila.

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But he thinks it may date from a second generation when the expected second coming of Jesus had not happened and the Church had to be "organised for an indeterminate future". Gatiss agrees that in the Bible "we expect to find historical details and cultural peculiarities and even teaching thf applies to the immediate hearers but not to others".

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Junia is one of the apostles, and among that thee of apostles she is eminent," insists Dunn. In its list of nearly 30 active early Christians, at least eight are women. His letters to early Christians were reverently collected to form a major part of the New Testament - though they are preoccupied with local disputes and organisational matters and often angry.

But this has too often been assumed to contradict the traditional reading of I Corinthians 14 and I Womrn 2 without proper logic or careful argumentation. Many modern scholars think I Timothy is not by Paul, but by a later writer familiar with his thinking.

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The Church of England. This would not surprise Paul. Jimmy Dunn, former professor of divinity at Durham and author of the Cambridge companion to St Paul, and Dr Ffor Gatiss, director of the evangelical Church Society, and opponent of women bishops, examine some of the texts. And often he advised that if someone insists on a principle another thinks unimportant, that person should go along with them, vible than alienate them.

Related Topics. Some commentators stress the fact that one, Priscilla Prisca in the original Greekis named before her husband Aquila.

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Dunn does not go so far, but he insists that texts must be seen in their historical context: "I think Paul would have been appalled that so many of his letters set in particular situations… are being generalised 19 centuries later and people say, 'This is the rule for ever and a day'. Some observers question the validity of both these key "anti-women" texts.

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She may be called an apostle. St Paul the Apostle. And often he advised that if someone insists on a principle another thinks unimportant, that person should go along with them, rather than alienate them.